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5th Inniskilling Dragoon Guards
Atthe outbreak of war in 1939 the 5th Royal Inniskilling Dragoon Guards were stationed at Colchester, Essex, with 4th Infantry Division. They went to France with the BEF serving as a reconnaissance Regiment for the Division. In March 1940 they transferred to 2nd Armoured Reconnaissance Brigade. After being evacuated from Dunkirk The Skins joined 3rd Motor (Machine Gun) Brigade in June 1940, they transferred to 28th Armoured Brigade in December 1940. They remained in the UK until after D-Day when they went to Normandy to replace 4th County of London Yeomanry in 22nd Armoured Brigade, 7th Armoured Division on 29th July 1944. They fought across Western Europe with 7th Armoured Division for the rest on the war.
1st Jun 1940 In Action
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Those known to have served with
5th Inniskilling Dragoon Guards
during the Second World War 1939-1945.
- Murland J. R.W.. Lt.Col.
- Russell James Alexander. Trpr.
- Suggit Henry Vies. L/Sgt.
- Turner Charles Edward. Sgt.
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There are 2 pages in our library tagged 5th Inniskilling Dragoon Guards These include information on officers service records, letters, diaries, personal accounts and information about actions during the Second World War.
L/Sgt. Henry Vies "Ginger" Suggit MM 5DG East Riding of Yorkshire YeomanryMy father, Lance Serjeant H.V. Suggit of the East Riding Yeomanry, seconded to the 5th Royal Inniskilling Dragoon Guards, was captured south of Brussels on 18 May 1940 whilst attempting to break through a German forward column. After initial treatment for serious wounds in a German field dressing station and hospital, he convalesced in base hospitals set up in Lazarettes in Brugmann and Malines, before recovering sufficiently to be transfered to prison camps in Hemer (Stalag VI A) on 17 September 1940 and then Lamsdorf (Stalag VIII B) on 28 November 1940.
Despite a still not fully functional arm, he bluffed his way onto coalmine working parties for the prospect of better rations, regaining fitness and more lax confinement - conditions useful for escape. Initially based in Morgenroth, he was transferred to Triebitz (party E211) in the Sudetenland, from which he made his first break on 27 August 1941 with two like minded colleagues, TSM Perry and Corporal Pugh - removing bars from their block windows and shinning down knotted sheets. They were on the loose for nearly 3 weeks, covering a significant distance on foot before being caught as they tried to stow aboard a train near Lundenburg. After security processing, they were returned to Lamsdorf and 20 days bread and water in solitary confinement.
Undeterred, he spent the next 8 months keeping a lower profile before securing another outside working party job, this time in a brewery in Hansdorf (party E95), again in the Sudetenland. Within the week, he and two East Yorkshire Regiment chums, Edie Harris and Jim Andrews, had done a bunk, changing into home made civilian garb that they had brought with them and had secreted on arrival.
Freedom was short lived, being apprehended 7 days later near Mueglitz. Two days initial security processing followed in Schoenberg, before being returned to Lamsdorf (as proof that escapers would be caught) and another interrogation, but only 5 days clink - all sticking to a tale indicating appalling conditions in work party E95. Their story and reality were poles apart, but was not checked, otherwise they could have got a year in a straflager. As it was, they were separated and father spent a month in two closely guarded timber working parties (E495 and E364), before a camp transfer to become somebody else's problem.
After a temporary confinement in Parsburg, he was held in what became Stalag 383 at Hohenfels from late August 1942 through to liberation, making two more escape attempts. The first was on 25 August 1943, when he and George Beeson walked out dressed as German guards. They were only loose for just over a day - a consequence of generally tighter German railway security measures around Nuremburg. They subsequently received 30 days solitary in the bunker, but managed not to compromise their modus operandi of getting out.
This enabled another attempt dressed in facsimile German uniform on 17 March 1944, with Australian Charlie Elphick. After passing through the inner gate, they came to grief at the outer security checkpoint, when a clued-up sentry asked too many questions. This time - being apprehended in the enemy's uniform - they were perhaps extremely fortunate only to receive 30 days solitary. The guard who passed them at the inner gate received 14 days of the same.
With a reputation as a persistent escaper, further attempts were problematic. When the Germans evacuated Hohenfels in Spring 1945, my father and others secreted themselves, hunkering down till liberation on 22 April. Cadging lifts to Paris, he was flown by prisoner recovery arrangements in a Dakota to Buckinghamshire and arrived home in Hull a week later.J R Suggit
Sgt. Charles Edward Turner East Yorkshire Yeomanry 5th Dragoon GuardsMy father, Charles Turner was a Tank Commander from the East Yorkshire Regiment. he was captured 23 May 1940 in St Omer, and sent to Stalag XX/A 6 June 1940 prisoner number 776 in Oflag III/C. He was transferred to Stalag XX/B on 10 October 1941. He was transferred from XX/A on 16 September 1942 and held in Oflag III/C we have no records of his of his release etc, he attested into the TA in 1947 In Kingston upon Hull.
My Father would never talk about his time in the camps as he thought it was better to look to the future. We have a photo of him in the camp, but we don't know which one is him. My father died in May 1973 and I am trying to compose a life book for my children before I die. I would like any help of advice from anyone and will pass on any info I have.James Turner
Trpr. James Alexander Russell 5th Inniskilling Dragoon GuardsMy dad, Jimmy" Russell joined the 'Skins ' in 1932 and was living in London at the time. He was posted to Colchester in 1939 as part of the 5th Inmiskilling Dragoon Guards. He was a part of the BEF to Dunkirk on the Florence ship and was one of the lucky ones evacuated back on the 3rd/4th of June. The regiment then spent time training and doing army things until he went to France just a few days after D Day. With his tank he covered ground up through France via Caen, Falaise Gap etc into Germany over the Rhine. Jimmy was demobbed 1945 and settled down in Colchester with his wife
This year 2014 I made a trip back to Normandy and followed his route through France. It was very humbling to have elderly Frenchmen shake my hand and thank me for my father coming through those villages in his tank. I felt that I was getting to know my father in a different way and found it hard to think of him in these circumstances.
I belong to the Regimental Association but would welcome any feed back from anyone who had a connection with the 5th Inniskilling Dragoon Guards. I appreciate that it is possible any of the 'Skins' are no longer with us but perhaps some of their families will see this and wish to contact me. Thank you.Paul Russell
Lt.Col. J. R.W. "Willie" Murland Royal EngineersMy cousin, Lt Col Murland, transferred to the Royal Engineers and subsequently to the Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers at the outbreak of the war. Previously, he was a reserve officer in the 5th Inniskilling Dragoon Guards.Jerry Murland
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